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 Post subject: XFCE 64bit problem
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:45 am 
This has been replicated twice before. I have installed uberstudent 64bit XFCE on my friends computer, and after a while, (what seems to after they've typed in shutdown -h now) the computer would never boot back into xfce regularly, it would give me a terminal prompt for a login, and once we have, it wouldn't do anything. We got around by trying startx (Even though I know we didn't have Mate, we tried it anyways) and it said Gnome wasn't installed. We tried startxfce4, and that booted up the computer, but no sound, along with a few other bugs that I can't quite remember.

I reinstalled the entire operating system again, and told them not to shut it down like that, in case it was a bug, and they havn't, and just recently, the same thing happened, except this time, we don't have internet. The button at the top right for network says that there are networks to choose from, but we just can't, and the wcid says there are not networks to choose. I plan on switching them over to Mate 64bit, unless someone has a potential solution to this :-)
Just letting you know, as a potential bug, and in search for a potential fix.

Let me know what you come up with!

Thanks

Mark


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 Post subject: Re: XFCE 64bit problem
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:51 am 
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Hi,

that's bad :(
Until someone comes up with a solution, could you post his .xsession-errors and .xsession-errors.old files in your friend's home directory?
Also I just read in a forum (from 2008 though) about a workaround:
Open /home/.cache/ and delete the sessions folders in it.

If that does not change anything, try
Code:
xfce4-session
in the terminal after boot up. What does this give you?

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 Post subject: Re: XFCE 64bit problem
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:40 am 
I wasn't able to find the .old file, but i was able to find the other one, just not able to post it here, due to their lack of internet. If need be, i'll figure out a way to copy it here.

I deleted the .cache folder, and rebooted, and nothing happened.

The xfce4-session had the following error

"xfce4-session: Cannot open display: ."

Thank you for your help btw :-)


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 Post subject: Re: XFCE 64bit problem
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:54 am 
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Hi again :)

Maybe it's the xorg.conf which is corrupted...
============If there is a xorg.conf file============
Backup the xorg.conf by
Code:
sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup

Then delete the X configuration file by
Code:
sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
and reboot.
The x server should reconfigure itself automatically. If it doesn't just type
Code:
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
and reboot again.
=========================================

If that does not help, there is one option left I can suggest to install another session manager (I use lxsession) by
Code:
sudo apt-get install lxsession
and choose lxsession as default session manager when you're asked to choose between xfce-session and lxsession.

Hope you'll get it work :geek:

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 Post subject: Re: XFCE 64bit problem
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:11 pm 
I do not have a file under /etc/X11 called xorg.conf. I did find it in /usr/share/xresprobe, and i deleted that, and rebooted. the file is back up, but the desktop environment still doesn't start up on boot. I would try the lxsession idea, but unfortunately, we are in the dark in terms of internet. We can't connect to the internet ever since we lost XFCE on startup (along with sound)
Plus, I thought Mr.Ewen said if we added another one, it may crash the entire operating system (over dramaticized, of course) How did you get yours to work?


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 Post subject: Re: XFCE 64bit problem
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:15 pm 
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The way to shut down an XFCE machine from the command line is

Code:
xfce4-session-logout --halt


Works perfectly...and fast. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: XFCE 64bit problem
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:13 pm 
thanks! is there a reason it's bad to do shutdown -h now?

Also, do you know of any ways to fix this Mr.Ewen?


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 Post subject: Re: XFCE 64bit problem
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:39 am 
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Mark Marks wrote:
thanks! is there a reason it's bad to do shutdown -h now?

Also, do you know of any ways to fix this Mr.Ewen?


Basically, it seems to me that major Linux developers (e.g., the XFCE developers) don't always feel constrained to honor older or more basic ways of doing things.

It's a mixed bag: there's a lot of frustrating balkanization that breaks things, and there's a lot of smart innovation that improves things...and the lines between the two are not always clear, especially at first.

It helps me to keep in mind the bigger picture when dealing with a desktop environment--any desktop environment, such as is XFCE, and whether Linux or otherwise: it is ultimately a layer...built atop a layer...built atop a layer...built atop a layer.

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