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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:46 pm 
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Fresh install UberStudent 4.1
Thunderbird 38.2.0
Enigmail 1.8.2
GnuPG was found in /usr/bin/gpg2
Same/similar problem on two different machines!
Have researched for two days. The usual and customary solutions do not work for me in UperStudent.
I am familiar with using T-Bird with Enigmail plugin ( 4 years+ ) and use it daily on Ubuntu 14.02.04 LTS
I can create a key from the command line and create a revocation key.
GNU Privacy Assistant is installed on only on the first machine
Seahorse not installed on either machine (I assumed it was not needed because it is a GNOME application)

I created a new key pair through the Enigmail setup wizard.
But when I attempt to create an revocation certificate, a window opens to
locate the place, where to save the certificate. When I confirm that, I get the
message "The revocation certificate could not be created. error - no passphrase supplied"

I configured by email account to use newly created key.
Closed T-Bird.
Opened T-Bird
Composed new mail to myselfself. Encryption enabled automatically, looks normal.
Mail send was OK and is received OK.
Decryption fails!

"Error - decryption failed
gpg: decryption failed: No secret key
Note: The message is encrypted for the following User ID's / Keys:
0x127205AAD1F9E1A0 (Bluestreak <Bluestreak1776@gmail.com>)"

~$ gpg --list-keys
/home/paul/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
-----------------------------
pub 4096R/5193E0DF 2015-11-02 [expires: 2020-10-31]
uid Bluestreak <Bluestreak1776@gmail.com>
sub 4096R/D1F9E1A0 2015-11-02 [expires: 2020-10-31]

~$ gpg --list-secret-keys
/home/paul/.gnupg/secring.gpg
-----------------------------
sec 4096R/5193E0DF 2015-11-02 [expires: 2020-10-31]
uid Bluestreak <Bluestreak1776@gmail.com>
ssb 4096R/D1F9E1A0 2015-11-02

~$ gpg2 --version
gpg (GnuPG) 2.0.22
libgcrypt 1.5.3
Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Home: ~/.gnupg
Supported algorithms:
Pubkey: RSA, ELG, DSA, ?, ?
Cipher: IDEA, 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH,
CAMELLIA128, CAMELLIA192, CAMELLIA256
Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512, SHA224
Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB, BZIP2

~$ gpg --version
gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.16
Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Home: ~/.gnupg
Supported algorithms:
Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA~$ gpg --version
Cipher: IDEA, 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH,
CAMELLIA128, CAMELLIA192, CAMELLIA256
Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512, SHA224
Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB, BZIP2

pinentry-Qt4 0.8.3 is installed
pinentry-gtk2 0.8.3 is installed
pinentry-curses 0.8.3 is installed on first machine only

I am totally at a loss at this point. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

email if you wish for additional info - kingmanjustice1775@gmail

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:39 am 
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Well... this is disappointing. This distro works and works very well. I was even able to install Google Earth without any issued such as on Ubuntu 14.02.4 LTS and been so happy for the past month. Unfortunately, I must use Thunderbird w/Enigmail daily to send and receive encrypted mail.

I have spend several days at this point trying various options and different configurations and have not made any progress. Went so far as to load a fresh install on my spare machine and try to configure T-Bird to send encrypted mail, but still no joy.

Really hoped someone would jump in and explain why it works fine for me on Ubuntu, but not on UberStudent. I do believe I have search for and verified all dependencies that are needed. I guess for now I will have to go back to Ubuntu, but use something other than the Unity desktop. I stuck with Unity since it was introduced, but no more. I can get about one year out of a Ubuntu install before it degrades and starts to bog down. My machine is no slouch box either Xeon 8 core processor, 16GB EEC memory, Asus workstation class mobo.

I would gladly reinstall UberStudent if I find out where my error is or what is different about the UberStudent distro compared to Ubuntu distro.
I may continue to search for a solution on my backup machine, but for now I will have to install something else. Fortunately I have a separate home folder so if will only be a couple of day process.

If a solution to my issue is found, or something for me to try, please email me directly to kingmanjustice1775 (at) gmail (dot) com

Thank you

Paul Frankfurter


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:44 am 
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I know nothing of Enigmail so cannot advise on it. However, there should be absolutely zero difference between how UberStudent 4.3 and Ubuntu 14.04 behaves in the matter.

I constantly use GPG in UberStudent to sign Debian packages. No issues.

It may be possible that your .thunderbird profile is corrupt. You might delete it and then open Thunderbird again to seed a fresh profile.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:06 am 
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See Ubuntu 14.04 Issues setting up email encryption in Thunderbird with Enigmail - especially the part about the permissions.

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    * Drive: OCZ Vertex SSD
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:29 am 
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See attached.

This is Enigmail working with my prexeisting GPG key:
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Here it is working with a new key I generated in the Enigmail wizard:
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Here is revocation key I made without issue:
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I am having zero issues using Enigmail in UberStudent.

BTW, if you have this working on another machine, all you should have to do is use the same username on the machines and copy over your thunderbird and gpg profile to the new machine.

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The UberStudent Headquarters:
    * Mobo: MSI 870-G45
    * Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 3.4GHz
    * RAM: G.SKILL 8GB DDR3 1600
    * Graphics: MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti
    * Drive: OCZ Vertex SSD
    * Case: Rosewill ATX Mid Tower
    * Monitors: 2 x Dell UltraSharp
    * With UberStudent 4.3 Development Build
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:42 am 
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Thank you Stephen. I will try your suggestions. Since I made my previous post I have still been searching because I still feel some simply oversight is causing my troubles. I have used T-Bird and Enigmail for a very long time and have never had a problem setting it up.

On a positive note, I have discovered some things I did not understand about setting up Enigmail and am thankful I was forced to pursue the issue. I will keep at it for a couple of days yet and surely report back to this thread what I find.

Thanks for giving me someplace else to look. You have an absolutely stunning distro that truly reflects sound planning and foresight and I will be quite disappointed if I have to abandon it.

Paul Frankfurter


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:49 am 
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Could my issue be related to a 'path' issue? The reason I ask is because I created a separate 'Home' folder for this install so when I want to do a clean install of a newer version of UberStudent or perhaps try a different distro, my data will still be available. This is my first time installing in this fashion.

I deleted ./thunderbird and just the files only in ./gnupg Restarted Thunderbird and verified that a new ./thunderbird was created. After setting up a new IMAP account in Thunderbird I then installed the Enigmail add-on. Creating a new keypair worked as usual but I still got the same error message when attempting to create a revocation key.



Important I think is the fact that the keypair I created is not visible in ./thunderbird. However, the new set of files was created in ./gnupg Please notice my path is both pictures. Is it possible I need to create a symlink or two so that my private key will be found? If so, please explain as I have never done that before. I'm still a beginner when it comes to the file structure and using the command line, but I have been forcing my self to learn more command line tools.

I should also mention that I am able to follow and perform the written command line instructions for creating a keypair and creating a revocation key which work as they should.

Paul Frankfurter


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:54 am 
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Sorry I have not figured out how to properly insert my pictures yet, Stephen.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:02 am 
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Sending a secure message to myself works, but decryption fails. I believe this may be because the keypair is not in ./thunderbird. But I'm not sure the proper way to go about fixing it.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:54 am 
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Problem solved!!!!! :lol: I read some helpful text at Gnu Privacy Guard site that explained how the secure keyring was handled differently after installing gpg2.
See "Removal of the secret keyring" for how keyrings are handled after upgrading to GnuPG 2.1 and above:
https://www.gnupg.org/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.html

FYI: I had reverted back to gpg 1.4.9 while trying to get things to work here most recently which may have added to the confusion.

GnuPGpaul@paul-justice:~$ gpg2 --version
gpg (GnuPG) 2.0.22
libgcrypt 1.5.3
Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

I believe the key was being search for in the wrong folder. Later tomorrow I will check the path describes in the preference on my other machine and try to clarify a bit more. I believe part of the problem with my version of UberStudent is that I already had 40 plus public keys to import, plus several keypairs of my own. They I went into self destruct mode trying to fix a simple problem.

What was not apparent is "Noteworthy Bugs": "GnuPG 2.1.8 and later could no longer read the keys saved by older versions of GnuPG"
https://www.gnupg.org/blog/20151103-gnupg-in-october.html

I will try to capture and document the path error I think I now know about on my other machine, then do a fresh install of this same version and figure out if generating a fresh key will work properly. If it does not I will try to document the quickest and easiest fix.

Thanks for your quick response Stephen. I would appreciate being able to send you a private email or communication. I tried once before through the Forum and didn't get a reply. Could have been my error though. If you will email me direct to kingmanjustice1775 (at) gmail (dot) com there are some things I would appreciate being able to discuss with you.

Thank you. Will get back with followup in a day or so.

Paul Frankfurter


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