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Author:  Berker Pekoz [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:07 pm ]
Post subject:  New Release

Hello,
I asked this on twitter previously and received *no* answer. Since Raring is going to become history in January, what will happen to Plato users then? Will there be a new release that we can roll to(I mean without performing a clean install)? I see that the command
Code:
sudo do-release-upgade

does not upgrade the core to Saucy, thus unless a new version is to be released we are stuck with Raring :(
Sincerely,

Author:  Stephen Ewen [ Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Release

I check tweets daily or very nearly daily. I see no tweet containing the word "uberstudent" asking this question. I do see numerous tweets in Turkish, though, so if you tweeted that way I wouldn't have really gotten the message, although I have used Google translate on a few to get the gist. ;) Posting here is always the best way to get my attention very quickly. Help links in UberStudent go here for good reason. :geek:

Look for an update at the end of the year.

I strongly urge against do-release-upgade. It's never worked well and will always be problematic. This is the same advice distros like Mint give, and for good reason. Ubuntu itself warns of upgrading with the method. No one really spends time to make sure the method works.

It's best and most stable to (1) keep important files altogether off the operating system drive; and (2) use the function in Synaptic, "Generate package download script," to re-install any packages you want to add quickly right away to a newly installed system; and (3) install the new system.

Author:  Berker Pekoz [ Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Release

Stephen Ewen wrote:
I check tweets daily or very nearly daily. I see no tweet containing the word "uberstudent" asking this question. I do see numerous tweets in Turkish, though, so if you tweeted that way I wouldn't have really gotten the message, although I have used Google translate on a few to get the gist. ;) Posting here is always the best way to get my attention very quickly. Help links in UberStudent go here for good reason. :geek:

Look for an update at the end of the year.

I strongly urge against do-release-upgade. It's never worked well and will always be problematic. This is the same advice distros like Mint give, and for good reason. Ubuntu itself warns of upgrading with the method. No one really spends time to make sure the method works.

It's best and most stable to (1) keep important files altogether off the operating system drive; and (2) use the function in Synaptic, "Generate package download script," to re-install any packages you want to add quickly right away to a newly installed system; and (3) install the new system.

Well this was my tweet :)
So we will not roll on to the new release, we have to make a clean install, correct? I have lots of proprietary packages installed on /usr/local/ (Matlab, Mathematica etc.) and any way to simply roll on to the new release would be great :roll:
Thanks Mr. Ewen

Author:  Berker Pekoz [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Release

Just out of curiosity, I have a / drive for the system and /home drive to keep my files, although for the reason provided above I might think of adding a /usr drive. When installing a new operating system that uses Ubiquity I have the option to format the / drive, which would delete all data, and if not some data from the older system keeps hanging around in the drive.
Which one would you prefer when you are in need to install a new distribution?
P.S: The year has ended but we still do not have a new lovely edition of UberStudent :<

Author:  Damion Lunin [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Partitions & Drives

Berker Pekoz wrote:
I have a / drive for the system and /home drive to keep my files, although for the reason provided above I might think of adding a /usr drive.

Learning how to have /home and /usr (or a subdirectory such as /usr/local) dwell on separate partitions or physical drives than the / directory makes it easier to upgrade a distribution without having to migrate or lose files in those directories, which is exactly why most long-term Linux users eventually learn to do it.

Author:  Berker Pekoz [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Release

I'm sorry my question wasn't clear, do you "format" your / drive when reinstalling a distro from scratch or is proceeding without formatting fine?

Author:  Stephen Ewen [ Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Release

Update will have to wait a few weeks. I slipped hard on the ice several days ago and busted my nose open.

Author:  Damion Lunin [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Partitions

Berker Pekoz wrote:
...do you "format" your / drive when reinstalling a distro from scratch or is proceeding without formatting fine?

If your older release runs on top of an older filesystem [such as EXT3] and a newer release needs a newer filesystem [such as EXT4] for various features, the new release would encounter problems if trying to run on top of the older filesystem. Completely deleting the old / partition gives the newer release the chance to implement such things as a newer filesystem.

Author:  Damion Lunin [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Slippage

Stephen Ewen wrote:
I slipped hard on the ice several days ago and busted my nose open.

Damn; save your coccyx and you sacrifice your nose. ...Don't catch a cold!

Author:  Berker Pekoz [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Release

Stephen Ewen wrote:
Update will have to wait a few weeks. I slipped hard on the ice several days ago and busted my nose open.

I'm Sorry to hear that Mr. Ewen, get well soon:<

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