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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:03 am 
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Having been a DEDICATED "trier" of Linux since there was a choice between JUST two "distros" - many years ago and never having found one that readily installed and had really useful programs for the real world user, ( like noteTabPro, etc. etc. much less a Dragon Naturally Speaking substitute) I finally found VirtualBox (VBox) which allowed me to dry run and ALMOST use Linux for serious stuff like Writing. (Libre Open Office is nearly there as a replacement for Microsoft's suite.)

I had given up and was even nearly ready to even contemplate buying an Apple! I'm active on the SERIOUS Net - not suckerdom (games and porno) , but regularly get infected from outsider's communications.
After my latest really viscious infection - picked up from a deadly carrier called Babylon now on hundreds of millions of unsuspecting machines coupled with unknown others courtesy of a highly trusted Downloads service called Downloads.com (owned by Cnet.com), I decided to have Y.A.G. (yet another go) and using VBox began trying to install and run numerous Linux Distros.
Each one either failed to install in VBox at all, or did and ran like a one-legged dog and offered no easy/useful packaged installs.
Literally, the last one I tried was Uberstudent (a dreadful name, so nearly didn't).
It should be called Liquid Linux FTROU.
It just flowed on my two machines - both Laptops, one an elderly 32 Bit Samsung R780, with Windoze7, the other a cheapo ASUS with 64 bit Windoze8.
Very smart install offers and pre-installed USER-useful packages ( not mainly HACKER-useful).
THANK YOU THANK YOU STEPHEN!

BUT: You are obviously no marketer! :-)
Retitle your distro as LIquid Linux ("because it just flows on")
FTROU : "The Linux For The Rest Of Us"
Cheers!
More to come in my next post - asking for help


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:53 pm 
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jack j rigby wrote:
Retitle your distro as LIquid Linux ("because it just flows on")

Your suggestion for retitling is certainly complimentary and is a testament to the successful results of Stephen's hard work, but the word Liquid doesn't convey the educational focus of UberStudent. Given the codenames for the versions of UberStudent (Cicero, Aristotle, Plato), naming Stephen's distro after his favorite famous thinker would not have been a bad idea. The name UberStudent has a second utility though: the "Ub-" beginning subtly conveys that it is an Ubuntu-derived distro.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:59 pm 
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The name of an organization is today constrained by the domain(s) available for it.

When naming this Linux distribution, that was the major issue, in fact. A lot of people don't yet fully appreciate this difficulty, so I explain it here, and how UberStudent came to be called what it is.

First off, Damion is absolutely correct about Ub-. The name UberStudent happened, in part, because I realized that UbunStudent would get me into trouble with Canonical. The name was not an option. Yet I wished to still connote Ubuntu in the name without offending Canonical, the parent company behind Ubuntu.

I tried for months to get the domain http://collegelinux.org but was unable to reach the domain owner.

Another option, Eduix, was already taken (click it: eduix.com) by a Finnish software company.

Even if it were appropriate for an education-focused distro, Liquid would have been a non-starter, according to these people. liquidlinux.com, incidentally, has been parked for 11 years by a domain squatter. They want $3,200 to turn the domain over.

Due to unscrupulous people and inadequate oversight, it's never easy to name something in the Internet age...unless you have money to throw around, sometimes a LOT of money, much more than $3,200...more like $32,000. :!:

So I eventually went with the very best name I could come up with that had a domain available within my very modest startup budget.

At the time, uberstudent.org was an un-taken domain name, so I grabbed it. I'm the first and only person to have owned uberstudent.org.

uberstudent.com and uberstudent.net were taken by individuals who weren't doing anything terribly much with them (see here and here). I eventually snatched both of them for around $150 each, at the very moment they expired.

The biggest criticism of the name UberStudent has come from elderly Germans. They connect the term uber with the Hitler regime's use of the term, which usage did have very ugly racial connotations. Younger Germans, however, have no such inhibitions with the name, and even laugh and scoff at older Germans over the issue (I've read their forum debates). The meaning of terms change over time, middle-aged and younger Germans say, and uber in the instance of UberStudent just means "cool," "smart," and the like, in completely innocent terms; so, get over it, already, they say. They are correct, of course.

UberStudent basically states the aim of the distro.

It is typically both VERY difficult and expensive to own all three top-level domains for a good name. It took four years, but UberStudent did inexpensively obtain all of them: uberstudent.com, uberstudent.net, and uberstudent.org. That alone is of enormous value, so the name of UberStudent is highly unlikely to change.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:34 am 
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Hi Stephen et al,
Actually, nobody SHOULD know more than me about the Domain Jungle! Been there done that... doing it, still.
Actually, thank you for your considered reply, I did fire my message off in an uber-state at finding a Linux Distro that worked out of the box - AND in Vbox.
I'm just getting my teeth into the Distro at the moment but have complicated family problems delaying serious efforts.

I'm actually going to look into how to get it into a VPS (I think), as an escape from my constant problems with Shared Servers.

Cheers for now,

Jack


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